IAB Public Policy & Legal Summit

Feras is Assistant General Counsel, Privacy at Dotdash Meredith, the largest digital and print publisher in America. Dotdash Meredith’s over 40 iconic brands include PEOPLE, Better Homes & Gardens, Verywell, Food & Wine, The Spruce, Allrecipes, Byrdie, REAL SIMPLE, Investopedia, and Southern Living. Feras leads the privacy function that aims to maintain trust with Dotdash Meredith’s 200 million monthly readers. Before joining Dotdash Meredith, Feras was the privacy lead at several startups in the AR/VR, healthcare, facial recognition, and location data industries respectively. Feras holds a J.D. from the University of Miami School of Law and a B.A. from Florida Gulf Coast University.

Fiona Campbell-Webster, Esq, CIPP-E, is MediaMath’s Chief Privacy Officer and sits on Legal/Data Policy and Governance team. As head of privacy at MediaMath, she is responsible for defining the privacy program and strategic policies and processes around privacy, data use, identity, and compliance. Her work addresses challenges facing both consumer privacy and identity, and healthy competitive digital markets, in an internet connected ad-supported world.

Fiona has more than two decades of experience as a privacy leader advising media and digital companies. Before MediaMath, Fiona was Head Legal Counsel and DPO at Beeswax (DSP), and prior to that she was the first and sole legal counsel and DPO at TripleLift (SSP).

Nick Choate is a senior policy advisory at Venable and is a veteran of Capitol Hill. Before joining Venable, Nick served as the deputy legislative director for former U.S. Senator Claire McCaskill (D-MO). In this role, he coordinated telecommunications, appropriations, cybersecurity, and technology policy priorities on behalf of the senator and her work as a member of the Senate Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation, and the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee. Prior to that he held various positions for Democratic members of the U.S. House of Representatives.

Tony Ficarrotta, Vice President and General Counsel at the Network Advertising Initiative (NAI), is an experienced privacy lawyer specializing in issues affecting digital advertising and media.  Before joining the NAI, Tony served as Assistant General Counsel at the Interactive Advertising Bureau (IAB), where he played a pivotal role in coordinating with stakeholders across the digital advertising industry to develop state law compliance frameworks and strategies. Before his tenure at the IAB, Tony served as an attorney at ZwillGen, a privacy and technology specialist firm, where his practice focused on guiding ad-tech platforms, social media companies, and digital publishers on data strategy and privacy compliance. Tony began his legal career advising financial services companies on privacy and other compliance matters at the international law firm Eversheds Sutherland US LLP.  In addition, Tony previously served on the staff of the Network Advertising Initiative as counsel for compliance & policy, where he helped drive member initiatives for responding to new requirements under the CCPA, and worked on updates to the NAI’s privacy-focused Code of Conduct and related industry guidance.  Tony holds a B.A. from the University of Colorado, Boulder, an M.A. from Georgetown University, and a J.D. from Duke University School of Law, where he graduated cum laude.

Arielle Garcia is UM’s Chief Privacy Officer. The visionary behind UM’s Privacy and Responsibility Practice and the agency’s leading expert on privacy, she has played a key role in cementing UM’s standing as the industry leader in privacy and brand safety. During her tenure at UM, Arielle has developed industry-leading work for clients, partnering to futureproof their approaches to consumer preference and brand protection. Arielle also spearheads UM parent company IPG Mediabrands’ Privacy Taskforce. During her tenure at UM, Arielle has developed industry-leading work for clients, partnering to futureproof their approaches to consumer preference and brand protection. Arielle also spearheads UM parent company IPG Mediabrands’ Privacy Taskforce.

Arielle was recently inducted into the 2021 AAF Hall of Achievement. Arielle has also been recognized as a Crain’s New York Business “20 in their 20s” and named a 2021 Cynopsis “Top Women in Media.”

Mr Gencarelli heads the International data flows and protection Unit at the European Commission (DG Justice and Consumers). He led the Commission’s work in the area of data protection in the decisive phases of the legislative reform and the EU-US negotiations. In that capacity, he headed the Commission’s delegation in the interinstitutional negotiations with the European Parliament and the Council that resulted in the adoption of the EU data protection reform (“General Data Protection Regulation” and “Law Enforcement Directive”). He was also one of the lead negotiators of the EU-US Privacy Shield and “Umbrella Agreement”. He recently negotiated the mutual adequacy arrangement with Japan. Mr Gencarelli previously served as a member of the European Commission’s Legal Service and as an assistant (référendaire) to a judge at the European Court of Justice after having practiced law in the private sector. He holds degrees in law and political science, and teaches EU Competition Law at Sciences Po Paris. He is the author of numerous publications on EU law.

A 25-year digital media pioneer Richy has led seven startups: three inside of big media companies, four outside. Richy now serves as Co-Founder and CEO of SafeGuard Privacy. He previously held executive roles at leading brands, agencies, and media companies. In his role as CEO/COO at Medialets, Richy pivoted & sold the company to WPP. Richy was on the founding team of CNN.com, the CEO/Founder of Phase2Media, a co-founder of IAB, and a co-founding board member of Breastcancer.org. Richy has also served at MTVN, Turner Broadcasting, and News Corp.

Rachel Glasser is the chief privacy officer at Magnite, a sell – side digital advertising technology platform. Rachel focuses on data collection and use in digital advertising, and compliance with privacy laws and regulations. Prior to Magnite, Rachel was chief privacy officer at Wunderman Thompson, a WPP agency. She has 15 years’ experience in digital marketing where she began her career managing media campaigns across a variety of clients and verticals. Rachel has a Bachelor of Arts in politics from Brandeis University, a Juris Doctor from Brooklyn Law School, is admitted to practice law in New York and New Jersey, and is a CIPP/US.

Nicholas Godlove is the Privacy Counsel for the Americas at Yum! Brands, which operates the brands KFC, Pizza Hut, Taco Bell, The Habit Burger Grill. Nicholas received his J.D. from the University of California – Davis, and his undergraduate degree with honors from the University of Arizona. Nicholas is a certified information privacy professional and has written articles and has spoken on matters related to data privacy, cyber security, and Web 3.0.

Daniel Goldberg is Chair of the Privacy & Data Security Group at Frankfurt Kurnit. Widely considered one of the top privacy lawyers in the US, he has been consistently recognized by top legal rating organizations including Chambers USA, The Legal 500, and Super Lawyers. Mr. Goldberg counsels clients on all matters involving data – from collection and monetization to security and incident prevention. He has special expertise in ad tech and technology transactions, often negotiating sophisticated agreements on behalf of top agencies, brands, and technology providers. Mr. Goldberg regularly advises clients on GDPR and CCPA compliance, and is now actively preparing clients for new US privacy laws taking effect in 2023, including the CPRA, VCDPA, and CPA. He is based in Los Angeles and admitted to practice law in California.

Robyn Greene leads Meta’s global privacy policy work on cross border data flows and government access to data. She manages policy development and analysis, research, and coalition building on a global portfolio of the most pressing issues in internet governance, including Meta’s responses to threats to EU-US data transfers and the spread of data localization requirements around the world.

Robyn previously spent five years with New America’s Open Technology Institute, where she was a Senior Policy Counsel and Government Affairs Lead. Prior to joining OTI, she worked at the Washington Legislative Office for the American Civil Liberties Union. In both positions, she developed policy and legislative proposals and analysis of surveillance and cybersecurity issues. Robyn also served as a subject matter expert on the Data Privacy and Integrity Advisory Committee at the Department of Homeland Security where she advised DHS on the use of facial recognition technology.

Robyn has testified before Congress on cyber threat information sharing, published the largest publicly available study on US Intelligence Community Section 702 compliance violations, and has been published in leading media outlets, including the Washington Post, Politico, Lawfare, and Just Security.

Michael Hahn is Executive Vice President & General Counsel at IAB and IAB Tech Lab. Michael has responsibility for all legal matters, including the direction of legal strategy, privacy compliance, antitrust compliance, intellectual property rights issues, and general corporate matters. Michael is also responsible for serving as an advocate for the digital advertising industry on common legal issues affecting member companies.

Michael joined IAB and IAB Tech Lab from Lowenstein Sandler LLP where he served as Vice Chair of the firm’s Antitrust Practice Group. In that role, he provided clients with strategic counsel around competition, distribution and governance issues. In the area of litigation, Michael’s matters have included multiparty class action antitrust defense representation.

Michael served previously as Co-Chair of the New Jersey State Bar Association Antitrust Law Committee. He also previously served on the Editorial Advisory Board of Competition Law 360 and the Advisory Board of the American Bar Association Antitrust Section’s Civil Torts & RICO Committee. Michael frequently publishes on a range of legal and policy issues.

Michael earned his B.A. in History and Political Science from Rutgers University, M.P.P. from Georgetown University and J.D. for Georgetown University Law Center.

Erick currently serves as Legislative Director and Senior Counsel to Congressman Steve Chabot (OH). In addition to handling the judiciary portfolio, Erick focuses on financial services, tax, labor, and technology issues. Erick formerly served as Legislative Counsel to Congresswoman Emerson (MO) and as an aide to Senator Jim Talent (MO) and at the U.S. Department of Justice in the Office of the Solicitor General.

While completing his law degree, Erick served on the Wiley Rutledge Moot Court Board and as Senior Editor of the Washington University Jurisprudence Review. He appeared on various media outlets to discuss the 2008 Presidential election.

Erick received his Juris Doctor from Washington University in St. Louis, School of Law and his Bachelor of Science Degree from Vanderbilt University in Political Science and Human and Organizational Development with a concentration on Public Policy. While studying at Vanderbilt, Erick served on the Honor Council and completed internships with the U.S. House of Representatives, the U.S. Senate, the British House of Commons, and at the White House.

Erick is originally from Cape Girardeau, Missouri and he and his wife, Bridgette currently reside in Washington D.C with their miniature goldendoodle, Vandy.

Alysa Hutnik, Partner and Chair of Kelley Drye’s Privacy and Information Security practice, provides practical legal advice in all areas of privacy, data security, and advertising law, with a strong focus on adtech and the intersection of privacy and marketing practices. Alysa has a strong pulse on the ever-evolving privacy legal landscape, and frequently defends companies in privacy and advertising matters before the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) and state attorneys general. Alysa is ranked as a leading practitioner in the Privacy & Data Security area by Chambers USA, Chambers Global and Law360 and is a frequent speaker at conferences around the country.

Alex Joel is a Senior Project Director and Resident Adjunct Professor at the American University Washington College of Law, where he leads the Privacy Across Borders initiative for the school’s Tech, Law and Security Program. From 2005 to 2019, Mr. Joel served as the Civil Liberties Protection Officer for the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI), a position established by the Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Protection Act of 2004. From 2015-2019, he also served as the ODNI’s Chief Transparency Officer, appointed to the position by Director of National Intelligence James Clapper. Before ODNI, Mr. Joel was an attorney at the Central Intelligence Agency’s Office of General Counsel, which he joined in 2002. Before that, he worked as the privacy, technology, and e-commerce attorney for Marriott International, Inc., and as a technology attorney at the law firm of Shaw, Pittman, Potts & Trowbridge in Washington, D.C. (now Pillsbury Winthrop). Mr. Joel began his legal career as an officer in the U.S. Army Judge Advocate General’s Corps. Mr. Joel is a former member of the Board of Directors of the International Association of Privacy Professionals. He is a graduate of Princeton University and the University of Michigan Law School.

Jonathan Joseph leads Solutions and Marketing at Ketch, a platform for programmatic privacy, governance, and security. Passionate about innovation, his career is focused on data and disruptive technology. Prior to Ketch, Jonathan held strategy and innovation roles at Salesforce and Krux, a data management platform.

Rebecca Kelly Slaughter was sworn in as a Federal Trade Commissioner on May 2, 2018.

Commissioner Slaughter brings to the Commission extensive experience in competition, privacy, and consumer protection. She builds consensus for a progressive vision, and staunchly advocates for our nation’s consumers and workers. Commissioner Slaughter believes that the FTC’s dual missions of promoting competition and protecting consumers are interconnected and complementary, and she is mindful that enforcement or rulemaking in one arena can have far-reaching implications for the other.

A proponent of greater resources, transparency, and comprehensive use of the FTC’s authorities, Commissioner Slaughter is outspoken about the growing threats to competition and the broad abuse of consumers’ data. Targeted merger retrospectives, corrective enforcement, and expansion of the Commission’s rulemaking authorities are among the approaches that she has championed during her time at the FTC. Along with advocating for consumers, particularly those traditionally underrepresented and marginalized, Commissioner Slaughter strongly supports working families and work-life balance.

Before joining the FTC, Ms. Slaughter served as Chief Counsel to Senator Charles Schumer of New York, the Democratic Leader. She was an associate in the D.C. office of Sidley Austin LLP before entering federal service.

Ms. Slaughter received her B.A. in Anthropology magna cum laude from Yale University and her J.D. from Yale Law School, where she served as an editor on the Yale Law Journal. She lives in Maryland with her wonderful husband and their four amazing children.

Keir Lamont is the Director of the Future of Privacy Forum’s U.S. Legislation team. In this role he supports research and independent analysis concerning federal, state, and local consumer privacy laws and regulations. Keir previously held positions at the Computer & Communications Industry Association and the Program on Data and Governance at Ohio State University. Keir holds a J.D. from Georgetown University Law Center and a B.A. in Political Science & Economics from the University of Florida.

Travis LeBlanc co-leads the litigation department at Cooley LLP and is vice-chair of the cyber/data/privacy practice. He is also a Presidentially-nominated and Senate-confirmed Member of the Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board. LeBlanc was previously the Federal Communications Commission’s Enforcement Bureau Chief and earlier served as senior advisor to California Attorney General Kamala Harris, where he oversaw California’s complex litigation and policy in areas such as high-tech crime, cybersecurity, and privacy. He also worked in the U.S. Department of Justice’s Office of Legal Counsel and was appointed in 2017 as an arbitrator of disputes under the EU-U.S. Privacy Shield Framework. A.B., Princeton University; M.P.A., Harvard University; J.D., Yale Law School; LL.M., University of Cambridge.

Marissa Levinson is the Associate General Counsel for Privacy at Instacart. She leads Instacart’s global privacy legal team and oversees the company’s privacy program. Over the last 15 years, Marissa has held managerial, business development, legal and privacy roles at media, advertising and software companies.

Maneesha Mithal is a partner in the privacy and cybersecurity practice in the Washington, D.C., office of Wilson Sonsini Goodrich & Rosati, where she advises clients on privacy, cybersecurity, and consumer protection matters and represents companies in regulatory investigations. She is also one of the founding members of Wilson Sonsini’s AI group.

Maneesha is an internationally recognized expert on privacy and data security, having led the Federal Trade Commission’s (FTC’s) Division of Privacy and Identity Protection prior to joining the firm. In this capacity, Maneesha oversaw a team of 40 lawyers responsible for the enforcement of privacy and security laws and the development of policy positions in areas such as artificial intelligence, facial recognition, biometrics, and connected cars, as well as health privacy, children’s privacy, ransomware, and the intersection of privacy and competition. She was also responsible for enforcing the Fair Credit Reporting and Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act Safeguards Rule. She led the negotiation of numerous privacy and data security settlements and managed the first litigated FTC decisions on cybersecurity issues. Maneesha also worked with congressional staff on federal privacy legislation, with state attorney general offices on joint investigations, and with other federal and international agencies on a variety of initiatives.

Earlier in her career, as a manager with the FTC’s International Consumer Protection Division, Maneesha worked on European privacy issues and served as a U.S. delegate to the privacy committees of the OECD and APEC.

Maneesha previously served as Chief of Staff and Senior Counsel in the Bureau of Consumer Protection (BCP), where she reviewed advertising cases and financial consumer protection matters, and held various positions in BCP’s International Division, including as Acting Associate Director. She began her legal career as a litigator at Covington & Burling.

Maneesha is a frequent speaker at industry events, including IAPP- and ABA-led panels.

Robyn Mohr counsels clients on a wide variety of matters related to new media, technology, mobile and digital marketing, advertising, and privacy. She also advises on compliance with various state and federal laws and regulations, representing clients in a variety of industries, including consumer products, telecommunications, internet and entertainment.

Brian Perreault is a Senior Director and Associate General Counsel, Privacy at Comscore, Inc., a trusted currency for planning, transacting, and evaluating media across platforms. Brian earned his J.D. and LLM from University of New Hampshire School of Law, focusing on Intellectual Property, Commerce and Technology. He maintains the IAPP Certified Information Privacy Professional/United States (CIPP/US) certification.

Virginia Poe is a native of Orlando, Florida. She earned her bachelor’s degree from the University of Florida in Geography and her master’s degree from the American University of Paris in Global Communications. Directly after receiving her undergraduate degree she served as a Legislative Aide for Florida State Senator Eleanor Sobel before joining the Alan Grayson for Congress campaign as his Finance Director in 2012. She then went on to serve as Senator Mary Landrieu’s Deputy Finance Director in 2014 and the Finance Director on her father, Bob Poe’s, congressional campaign in 2016. Prior to joining IAB she served for 5 years as a Legislative Assistant in Congressman Charlie Crist’s D.C. office where she managed a portfolio that included technology, telecommunications, privacy, intellectual property, Transportation, Housing, and Urban Development Appropriations, Labor, Health, and Human Services Appropriations, and Commerce, Justice, Science Appropriations. She currently resides on Capitol Hill with her pet fish, Megan Thee Stallion.

Jules has served for 15 years as CEO of the Future of Privacy Forum, a global non-profit organization that serves as a catalyst for privacy leadership and scholarship, advancing principled data practices in support of emerging technologies.
Jules has led the development of numerous codes of conduct, best practices and assisted in the drafting of data protection legislation and presented expert testimony with agencies and legislatures around the world.
Jules is co-editor of The Cambridge Handbook of Consumer Privacy, published by Cambridge University Press (2018).
Jules has worked on consumer protection issues for 30 years, having served as Chief Privacy Officer at AOL and at DoubleClick, as Consumer Affairs Commissioner for New York City, as an elected New York State Legislator, and as a congressional staffer for then congressman Charles Schumer.
Jules served on the founding board of the International Association of Privacy Professionals and on the boards of a number of privacy and consumer protection organizations including TRUSTe and the Network Advertising Initiative. From 2011-2012, Jules served on the Department of Homeland Security Data Privacy and Integrity Advisory Committee. Jules is a member of The George Washington University Law School Privacy and Security Advisory Council. He also currently sits on the Advisory Boards of Open DP | Harvard University Privacy Tools Project and the California Privacy Lab (University of California).
Jules practiced law in the New York office of Stroock & Stroock & Lavan from 1989 to 1990. He is a graduate of New York University School of Law and Yeshiva University and is admitted to the Bars of New York and Washington, D.C. Jules is a Certified Information Privacy Professional.

Michelle Rosenthal is a senior attorney in the Division of Advertising Practices in the FTC’s Bureau of Consumer Protection. She recently returned to the Commission after spending over 8 years at T-Mobile advising the company on privacy-related issues, including COPPA. During Michelle’s prior stint at the FTC, she worked on both advertising and privacy issues. Since returning to the FTC in 2022, she led the FTC’s October 19 Protecting Kids from Stealth Advertising Event and is working on other child/teen-related advertising matters. Michelle received her B.S. from University of Florida and J.D. from George Washington University Law School.

Julie Rubash is General Counsel and Chief Privacy Counsel for Sourcepoint, the data privacy software company. Julie brings over 15 years of legal experience both at law firms and as internal counsel in the media, technology, and advertising sectors. Prior to Sourcepoint, Julie served as the VP of Legal at advertising platform Nativo. She coordinates legal efforts for Sourcepoint and ensures that the product suite innovates and expands to meet the demands created by the changing regulatory landscape.

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Cassidy is the Chief Privacy Officer at Drizly (an Uber Company) My career has been grounded in all things privacy and marketing law. The medium has not mattered to me in my journey because the principles are the same whether you’re considering AI, ecommerce, platforms, online or offline legal issues. It all comes down to really understanding how things work and applying IP, privacy, first amendment, Section 5 of the FTC Act. Add ethics and diversity and voila – that’s everything I love to do and help my clients understand. I am a fierce negotiator and known for being a real problem solver that helps move the business forward with ethics, integrity and verve.

My leadership includes being a Board Member of the National Advertising Review Board through 2023; Chair of the Association of National Advertisers (ANA) Legal Committee. Certified Information Privacy Professional (CIPP/US). Vice Chair of L’Oreal’s Diversity, Equity and Inclusion Board. I am a frequent speaker on privacy and advertising hot topics.

As a co-chair of Venable’s Privacy and Data Security Group, Julia Tama is a trusted advisor to large and small companies in a dynamic legal area. Julia helps clients resolve their privacy and security compliance challenges and zealously defends companies in government inquiries or enforcement actions. Her approach is tailored and practical, rooted in a fluent understanding of relevant technologies and each client’s unique business model and goals.
Advocating on behalf of clients concerned about the potential impact of proposed agency regulation or legislation, including by monitoring policy developments and drafting comments on rulemakings

Julia advises clients on matters arising under various U.S. and international standards, including the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act (GLBA), California’s Financial Information Privacy Act (FIPA), the Children’s Online Privacy Protection Act (COPPA), Controlling the Assault of Non-Solicited Pornography and Marketing Act (CAN-SPAM), the Telephone Consumer Protection Act (TCPA), and the Telemarketing Sales Rule. She is proficient in the Digital Advertising Alliance’s (DAA) Self-Regulatory Principles and other self-regulatory frameworks. Julia guides clients through all phases of responding to data breach incidents, including conducting initial forensic investigations; issuing required breach notifications; and handling inquiries from regulators, customers, and the media.

Prior to joining Venable, Julia served as Judiciary Committee Counsel to U.S. Senator Charles E. Schumer (D-NY), where her portfolio included privacy, data security, consumer protection, child Internet safety, and foreign intelligence surveillance issues.

Ashley Tan is a Vice President in Paramount’s global Corporate Privacy team, focusing on privacy challenges in streaming services and adtech. Prior in-house positions include BuzzFeed, Complex, and Hasbro, and she also holds degrees from University of Michigan and University of Michigan Law School.

Chris Tarbell, Special Counsel at Kelley Drye & Warren, has a deep understanding of the privacy landscape and advises clients on privacy and consumer protections risks. He assists with issues related to compliance with state, federal, and global privacy laws, and helps clients achieve their overall business objectives. Chris has counseled clients across the advertising ecosystem, from publishers, to brands, to ad tech companies. Prior to joining Kelley Drye, Chris was an associate general counsel for Fanatics, a leading global sports platform, and assistant general counsel for The Walt Disney Company.

Lartease Tiffith is the Executive Vice President for Public Policy at the Interactive Advertising Bureau (IAB). He leads IAB’s public policy team, which is responsible for advocating on behalf of IAB’s more than 700 member companies on complex issues, including consumer privacy, data security, global trade, international data transfer rules, and more. Lartease also leads IAB’s Public Policy Council, the marketing and media industry’s largest legislative and regulatory advisory group, with senior executives from more than 200 companies contributing to solutions to advance consumer benefits and economic growth. He also plays an important role in supporting IAB Tech Labs efforts to align the industry’s technical development and best practices. 

Lartease joined IAB from Amazon, where he led the company’s public policy work around advertising, privacy, security, data governance, cross-border data flows, and consumer protection issues. In his role, he provided counsel to internal legal and business partners on global public policy matters to help guide the development of products, services, and internal policies. During his tenure at Amazon, INSIDER named him as one of the key players in politics and the tech world. 

Prior to joining Amazon, Lartease served as Senior Counsel to then-U.S. Senator Kamala Harris, and Counsel to U.S. Senator Dianne Feinstein. Before working in the Senate, he practiced law at two international law firms (Kirkland & Ellis LLP and O’Melveny & Myers LLP) and the U.S. Department of Justice. Lartease began his legal career as a Law Clerk to the Honorable Roger L. Gregory, Circuit Judge, on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit. 

Lartease earned his B.A., J.D., and M.B.A. from Northwestern University.

Yael Weinman is an Associate General Counsel at Verizon where she focuses on policy issues relating to privacy. Prior to Verizon, Yael launched the privacy portfolio at ITI, a technology trade association.

Previously, Yael spent more than ten years at the FTC in a number of roles. She served as an attorney advisor to Commissioner Julie Brill, worked in the Office of International Affairs, and monitored compliance with FTC orders.

Yael is a frequent panelist and has testified in Congress. She earned her J.D. at Fordham Law School and her B.A. at the University of Pennsylvania. She is a native of Brooklyn, New York.